Vitamin C serum

 

We will start with these 9 facts on vitamin C products and how to make your own C serum.

I recommend everyone put Vitamin C and E onto their face daily because they protect against UV induced cell damage. It is this sun damage that not only causes premature aging but also skin cancers. However Vitamin C has other properties including being one of the few ingredients that has a science base to show that it reverses signs of aging to the skin.

Vitamin C Serum was originally used in skin care products in the form of ascorbic acid. At a 10% concentration and low ph, ascorbic acid has been shown to stimulate collagen, decrease wrinkle depth and have lightening effects on pigmentation. It was thought that a minimum 10% concentration was required but newer information indicate that lower concentration (5%) may have benefit. It is best to stay with products that have this concentration or above.

9 Facts about vitamin C serum

1. Consumer beware - not all products contain sufficient vitamin C to be of benefit Most products on the market do not have sufficient concentration to be of benefit to the skin. Many companies, keen to cash in on the market trends for antioxidants in skin care, put only miniscule amounts in and consumers unknowingly will buy a product that will be of no benefit. Unfortunately you cannot judge from the prestige or price of the product you buy, you need to look at the concentrations. See blog post on topical antioxidants.

2. Vitamin C does not work in everyone For reasons that are not yet known, Ascorbic Acid at a good concentration does not work in everyone. It may only be 60% of the population who get the age reversing benefits of vitamin C. Some people who do not respond to Ascorbic Acid however still get anti-aging benefits from the newer vitamin C derivatives. (Discussed later). Vitamin C, however is a potent antioxidant and you still should get the benefits of protection from UV induced cell damage even if it does not keep you looking younger.

3. Vitamin C in the form of Ascorbic Acid is very expensive Vitamin C is very unstable and difficult to get into a formulation this in part explains why ascorbic acid skin products tend to be very expensive.

4. Your Vitamin C Serum may oxidise before you get to put it on your skin The biggest problem with Ascorbic Acid creams and serums is that because they are unstable, they are oxidised very quickly and once it is oxidised it does not provide any benefit to the skin at all. Even in stabilised formulations there is a risk that before you get your precious vitamin C cream or serum home, it will already be useless and worse may even because more damage to your skin than good.

5. Watch for yellowing of your serum- it indicates oxidation As it undergoes oxidation the ascorbic acid takes on a yellowish tinge, so it is important to check your creams or serums before you put them on your face, and if there is any yellow discolouration, DISCARD.

There is a problem with the colour check as the first stage of oxidation is colourless, so prior to going yellow it can be in an oxidised state that cannot be detected.

6. Do not buy vitamin C preparations that are tinted yellow or orange The second problem with using a colour test is that many vitamin C serums are tinted and you will not be not be able to detect if it is oxidised by visual checking. Why a company would do this is beyond me, when they know the difficulties of instability of vitamin C formulations oxidising. If you didn’t trust them you would think they are deliberately trying to mislead. Do not buy tinted formulations of vitamin C.

7. Vitamin C derivatives are more stable, less expensive and effective at lower concentrations There are newer derivatives of Vitamin C: Ascorbyl palmitate, Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate and Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate, and some of these are proving as effective as ascorbic acid in collagen stimulation. Refer Smartskincare an excellent science based skin care site. These derivatives are effective in lower concentrations, are more stable and less expensive and as such may be a better choice. There is a battle among some of the big cosmetic houses as to which is most effective but the newest Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate if particularly promising, and seems to work in some people who are resistant to Ascorbic Acid.

8. There is nothing special about the base cream or serum that the vitamin C (or any other active product) is delivered in Thinking about it logically, if a product has 10% ascorbic acid in stabilised form, or 2% Tetrahexyldecyl Ascorbate (the active ingredient) then no matter what the cost it will be equally effective, as there is no base serum or cream that has properties that make it effective in anti-aging-and that is the truth.

This is illustrated with my recent comment on Boots no 7 perfect and protect - where a chain store anti-aging cream is matching up to more expensive prestige brands and winning. The reason: it is the active ingredients that has the effect, no matter what advertising trys to seduce you - REMEMBER THIS FACT.

9. You can make your own Vitamin C Serum There is however some ingredients that are now considered state of the art in modern skin care. Among these is a group of base ingredients that help protect the skin and maintain the intercellular network. Refer Cosmetic Cop - Paula Begoun cosmetic ingredients dictionary on natural moisturising factors. These do not have anti—aging benefit but protect the skin and assist in repair. Glycerin is one of these, other very good protectants and natural moisturisers are ceramides and silicones.

Glycerin is the one I am particularly interested in, as this next post I will give you a very simple recipe for a vitamin C serum made from glycerin and ascorbic acid you buy at the chemist store, so you can make your very own 10% ascorbic acid serum. This will cost you a fraction of what you would pay off the shelf and because you make it fresh you know it will not be oxidised and it will work.

Dr. Jo is down in Australia and they call pharmacy " local chemist store"

Make your own Vitamin C serum

The recipe makes an approximate 10% concentration of vitamin C serum, using simple ingredients you can buy from your local Chemist store. The advantages of doing it yourself – apart from the obvious – ‘it will save you a lot of money’ is that you can make it fresh, store it in your refridgerator and know that it will not have oxidised- so in fact you will get fresh active product onto your skin. It is best only to make up small quantities at a time, to ensure it is always fresh and unoxidised.

Take care- these are active ingredients At this concentration it will have a relatively low ph, and in some people this will be too irritating for the skin. If this is the case, try making a half or even quarter concentration to start with. Use this for a week or two until you know you skin is tolerating this, and then slowly increase to a higher concentration. If after you apply it, you find your skin is tingling excessively, wash off immediately.

The recipe is divided into active ingredient, the one that has been shown to stimulate collagen, reduce fine lines and wrinkles and protect against sun damage and a simple base formula. Any product you buy over the counter with active ingredients consists of this.

Vitamin C serum Active Ingredient : 1-1.2 grams Vitamin C (L-ascorbic acid) (approximately 1/4 teaspoon) (The active ingredient must be L-ascorbic acid, not vitamin C tablets, or calcium Ascorbate) This can also be purchased from Skin Actives.

Base Ingredients. 5 ml glycerine (1 teaspoon) 5ml water (1 teaspoon) You should be able to buy both the L-ascorbic acid and glycerine from your chemist store.

Process. 1. Dissolve 1gram of L-ascorbic acid in 5 ml of water (preferably distilled), in small glass container using a stirrer. Make sure it is fully dissolved before proceeding to next step.

2. Add 5 ml of glycerine and mix.

3. Put in a sealable jar, (not clear glass as this allows light in, and light degrades vitamin C.) Store in cool dry place.

Voila – your own fresh vitamin c serum. Apply to skin once per day to start with (preferably at night), and increase to twice daily if tolerated.

This vitamin c serum is published to illustrate that it is the active ingredient that has benefits and to get you to challenge the notion that you need to pay a lot of money for active skin care ingredients. You must exercise caution when using this as with any product you put on your skin, if any signs of allergy or reaction develop desist immediately. In my last post I give two good sources of companies that provide products, including base creams and various active ingredients that allow you to make your own active creams at home.

 This information about vitamin c serum came from a conversation with Dr Joanne Turner and her Blog Skin Revision.

In looking for more information

I found out that plain ascorbic acid which is approximately half L-ascorbic acid and half D-ascorbic acid.

Our bodies only utilize L-ascorbic acid and easily filter out the D-ascorbic acid making plain ascorbic acid.

Here is a list of the four Vitamin C actives that you will find in skin care products.

Vitamin C Actives

Here is another article on the benefits of using a Vitamin C Serum. And what to look for if you are going to buy on of these serums.

Why You Should Use a Vitamin C Serum

Here is a good video!


Click below for more information on the Vitamin C Serum kit along with more Sent In Information and Questions!

More Information on the Vitamin C Serum Kit

We would like to post your Vitamin C Tips

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Sent In Information and Questions

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: I read that glycerin in its pure form is very drying

Glycerin will pull moisture in from the air around it. Now if you have more moisture in your skin than in the air it can pull moisture from your skin. Keep in mind you would have to be in a very dry climate.


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: I'm confused...I wasn't able to find L-ascorbic acid powder, but was able to find ascorbic acid powder...is it the same thing?

It is the same thing...

Thank you for the note

Wayne

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: I have been using this serum for about a month now and I must say it is the most wonderful skin care product ever!! I have always had dark circles under my eyes and big pores, at this point my circles are almost gone and my pores are alot smaller. I have played with the ingredients a little and found the perfect recipe for my skin! I am so excited to see what my skin looks like in another month!! I started off using it at night but now I use it daily under mymoisturizer w/ spf. Thanks so much for this information!

Thank you for sending us a note about the vitamin c serum Wayne!

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: hi i really liked the idea of making one's own vitamin c serum,more so coz it can be designed to suit ones own skin type.

one thing which I would like to ask here is that my daughter is 15 yrs old with combination skin can she also start using this serum.

Sometime she has red spots on her face but she never has pimple problem;if yes when should she use it during day/night.

She is exposed to sunlight as she generally walks down to her school.

At her age of 15 I would use sunscreen... not a vitamin c serum. You may want to try different kinds of sunscreen to see what one works the best with her skin. Keep track of the ingredients in the sunscreen, You can also make your own sunscreen....

Any time one uses a vitamin c serum you have to take care being out in the sun. When out in the sun the first thing you need to do is put on sunscreen..

Hope this helps Wayne

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: I was more than happy to search out this net-site.I wished to thanks to your time for this wonderful learn!! I undoubtedly having fun with each little little bit of it and I have you bookmarked to check out new stuff you blog post.

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Thank you for your post to Natural Skin Care Info

I see this post came in from China... Even I like to buy Karen my wife the better hand bags...She will not spend the money.

I would realy like to start a section on skin care for oriental woman. And lean of the different kinds on ingredients that are used in your part of the world.

If you would like to help I would be glad to work with you.

Best Wishes

Wayne

Thank you for the post and kind words! Wayne

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: How do I order the Vitamin C serum kit?

I'm hoping to have the Vitamin c kits by the end of June.

Sorry for the delay....Wayne

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: I've had this bookmarked for quite a while now and I've just finished buying the ingredients for it. I thought the idea of making my own was so good I shared this in our Smart Reads this week. www.mumspeak.com

Thank you for stopping back by. Let me know how it works on your skin. Also if you make any changes to the recipe that you would like to share...Wayne

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: Well I bought a vitamine c serum and it was already a bit yellowish, but it was very expensive so I use it still. My question is that will it benefite me even though it's a bit yellow? Cause I intend to finish the entire thing, and as a matter of fact I have seen improvements in my skin health, it's more glowing and tighter and a bit lighter now.

Thank you

Asia

It may have started to oxidize but it still has enough C to work on your skin. You may want to keep it in refridgerator to help slow down the oxidization.

Thank you for the note.

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: can i crush ascorbic acid tablets for this recipe or do i have to buy the l-ascorbic acid powder? thanks for your time, your information is the best i've come across!

The tablets have other ingredients that you do not want in the serum. You will want to use the ascorbic acid powder. Thank you for the note Wayne

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: I have been using this serum for about a month now and I must say it is the most wonderful skin care product ever!! I have always had dark circles under my eyes and big pores, at this point my circles are almost gone and my pores arealot smaller.

I have played with the ingredients a little and found the perfect recipe for my skin! I am so excited to see what my skin looks like in another month!! I started off using it at night but now I use it daily under my moisturizer w/ spf. Thanks so much for this information!

Wayne 5/9/2012

When you make make changes to the recipe please send them in as well so I can let every one know whan you did. Thank you for sending in your tips. Wayne

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: Hello. I'm confused about the vitamin c serum... Since it also lightens your skin, what if you don't want it to, but want to use it for the other wonderful benefits? I avoid the sun because of hyperpigmentation on my jawline, but I'm already pale and don't want to get more pale.

Have a good weekend and Thank You for the help!

From Hanna at Skin Actives

Vitamin C does not lighten the skin. What it does is work as an antioxidant and by doing that it prevents the oxidative stress that can lead to hyperpigmentation.

Hannah

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: Wayne,
I have all the ingredients and also bought Vitamin E 400 IU in liquid form to add in. Is the liquid form just as good as what you would get from the gelcaps? Also I read Hyaluronic Acid is good to add to thicken and add moisturizing qualities. Is this correct? I have not read any other comments about this ingredient.

Wayne 11/2810

The vitamin E should be just as good as the gelcaps. And is a good ingredient to add to the serum.

As for the Hyaluronic Acid I would ask Hanna at www.skinactives.com she is very good and will get right back to you.

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------------------------------ : I have read that hyaluranic acide is very good for skin as well. Does any body know if we can mix HA with vitamin C serum, instead of glycerine. Also does anyone have the recipe for HA cream or serum?

Wayne 11/2810

As for the Hyaluronic Acid I would ask Hanna at www.skinactives.com she is very good and will get right back to you.

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: My vitamin C serum crystallizes when it dries on my face? Why does it do that?

Wayne 11/2810

You have to dissolve the vitamin c in warm water fully before proceeding to next step. It sounds like it was not dissolved.

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: Thanks for the recipe! Some questions - how long should I leave the serum on my face? Is an hour long enough, or should I leave it on overnight? And is there a benefit to using the serum during the day when I am running around outside (with sunscreen, of course)? Or is using the serum during the day a bad idea?

Wayne 11/19/10

I have always used it at night. And leave in on all night long. As for using it in the day I have not tryed it.

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: Is this the kit you buy if you want to make your own? Do you use in the morning or at night? I use retin a in the evenings. Does it help with sagging and wrinkles? Will it have directions with the kit?

Thank you for your time!

Deb

Wayne 11/07/10

The kit on this page is to make your own homemade vitamin c serum. I use it at night. It will not help with sagging skin or wrinkles. It is to help your skin from the afects of the sun over time. The kit does come with directions to make the serum.

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: will L-ascorbic acid suit a skin that is allergic to theomersal?

Wayne 11/07/10

I do not know but will look into it.

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: I am looking for a Vitamin C Serum and I found this page, but I don't know what MAP is in one of the posts with a recipe to make a cream that I want to make. Also I am looking for something to help the skin above my knees.

Something to firm that skin.

Thanks,
Karen

Wayne 11/07/10

MAP is Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate which stimulates synthesis of collagen and is also an antioxidant.

This may help your skin and is worth a try.

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Hi

My recipe calls for Glycerin, distilled water and L-Ascorbic acid. Will the ascorbic acid which is at GNC in crystal form work just as well ? Is the ascorbic acid in powder form weaker because it has been broken down already.

Thanks, Lisa

Wayne 11/07/10

You want to use the ascorbic acid in powder form. As long as it is just ascorbic acid with no other fillers it will work.

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: can i use this product on sensitive skin.

Wayne 10/17/10

My skin is on the sensitive side and I was able to use it. I would start with a patch test first and then go from there.

Thank you for sending in a note

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: Hi i use Asorbic acid mixed with liquid oxygen drops. So i tried the absorbic acid and distilled water my face tingled for a few minutes it wasn't bad but when i looked my face was chalky am i doin something wrong..

And thank you

Wayne you done a great site thanks again... Annie

Wayne 10/17/10

I sounds like the absorbic acid was not dissolved you may want to warm the water first and then mix in the absorbic acid and try it again.

Thank you for the note and let me know.

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: Does it matter if it is ascorbic acid crystals or does it need to be powder?

I have found a very good price for L ascorbic acid crystals in a 4.4 oz jar.

Thanks

Wayne 10/17/10

Just make sure that it is dissolved.

Thank you for the note

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: Hi Wayne,
Will find some links to the sodium bicarbonate and attach them. I went ahead with the sodium ascorbate and am amazed at the difference in my skin in 3 days! I haven't used any other formulation of vitamin c so I don't have anything to relate the difference between the two..however am very pleased.

I didn't like the sticky feeling left from the glycerine so I added 1 vitamin E 400iu and it made it feel less sticky, but still too much for me. I then applied half of an Omega 3 oil capsule on top of that...incredible! Omega 3has ALA (α-Linolenic acid)and figured the added benefits of applying it topically might be of some help...it was! When I make up this weeks batch I will reduce the glycerine to 1/4 tsp (want to keep some because of it retains moisture in the skin)and vitamin e to 2 drops and then apply the omega 3 only before bed.

I'm sold on this!

(I also use Retin A - 20+ years)

Wayne 10/17/10

Thank you for sending in this great note. I'm on the look out for your links and will post them here when I do get them.

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: Well I've got the ingredients and have read your great article! I've got Ascorbic Acid powder (I am assuming its the same as L-Ascorbic Acid?)and Glycerol BP. I will definitely try that today and will post how it went shortly:)

Thank you Wayne for showing us a cheaper and more effective way in skin care
:D

Wayne 10/10/10

Thank you for the note. You have the right Ascorbic Acid powder let us know how it goes.

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: I've used Avon's 10% Vitamin C serum and it works perfectly well, has no tingly feeling, isnt too sticky and its quite cheap! Also my acne and blackheads problem has improved a lot!

Wayne 10/09/10

Thank you for sending in your info.

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: I have been putting the serum on my neck and have seen some red flakey skin in the creases. Is this caused by the serum or possibly something else?

Wayne 10/08/10

It my be the serum. Are you working the serum in to your skin or may be the serum is staying on top of the skin in the creases. You may want to stop using the serum until the redness stopes. Then try a small amount every other day on your neck and see if it happens again. If it does you may want to stop using the serum.

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: Hi Wayne,

Will find some links to the sodium bicarbonate and attach them.

I went ahead with the sodium ascorbate and am amazed at the difference in my skin in 3 days! I haven't used any other formulation of vitamin c so I don't have anything to relate the difference between the two..however am very pleased.

I didn't like the sticky feeling left from the glycerine so I added 1 vitamin E 400iu and it made it feel less sticky, but still too much for me. I then applied half of an Omega 3 oil capsule on top of that...incredible! Omega 3has ALA (α-Linolenic acid)and figured the added benefits of applying it topically might be of some help...it was! When I make up this weeks batch I will reduce the glycerine to 1/4 tsp (want to keep some because of it retains moisture in the skin)and vitamin e to 2 drops and then apply the omega 3 only before bed.

I'm sold on this!

(I also use Retin A - 20+ years)

Wayne 09/30/10

Thank you for sending in this information. It is great to hear what you all are using and the recipes as well. When one starts to use a recipe you can see how it can be changed to work with your skin and how to make to so you like to use it as well. It would be great to have the links as well and I will post it at the bottum of this post. Thanks again!

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: Can we mix the ascorbic acid with emu oil?

Wayne 09/28/10

You could add the emu oil to the mixrure. But just the two, the ascorbic acid would not dissolve.

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: How effective would sodium ascorbate be? It has been buffered to be non acidic, 1.69g ascorbic acid and 210mg sodium per half tsp with no other filler. Found this and figured it might be good for the skin:

"Most of us are going to be surprised to find out that there is an oncologist in Rome Italy, Dr. Tullio Simoncini, destroying cancer tumors with sodium bicarbonate.[i] Sodium bicarbonate is safe, extremely inexpensive and unstoppably effective when it comes to cancer tissues. It’s an irresistible chemical, cyanide to cancer cells for it hits the cancer cells with a shock wave of alkalinity, which allows much more oxygen into the cancer cells than they can tolerate. Cancer cells cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen. Sodium bicarbonate is, for all intent and purposes, an instant killer of tumors. Full treatment takes only days,"

Any thoughts?

Wayne 09/26/10

I could find info on taking sodium ascorbate but not using it in skin care. When I do I will post it under this post.

As for using sodium bicarbonate for treating cancer tumors, this is way over my head. I can only hope and do beleave with all the people that are working on the many types of cancer that they are making headway. Any more info that you do come by send it in and I would be glad to post it or we can even make another section on it.

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: Hello, My daughter is going to buy a small bottle of Vitamin C Serum for me.

What quantity should I apply under my moisturizer every day and/or does the Serum replace the moisturizer? I am 59 yrs old. Michelle

Wayne 09/26/10

You would want to rub in a small amount of the vitamin c serum in to your skin. You would also want to read the directions that come with the serum you get.

Your moisturizer will go on top of the vitamin c serum. It is not to be used as a replacement.

Let us know what brand you get and how it works. Thank you for the note.

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: I contacted SkinActives and they have the L-Ascorbic acid in powder, not liquid. They have MAP and they suggested I use this if I'm making a vitamin C serum. What are your thoughts on this?

How do you make the serum with powder? Or, where can I get the liquid version?

Thanks,
Anna

Wayne 09/21/10

The best Ascorbic acid to use is the powder. When it is in a liquid it may have already started to oxidiz. I have not used their MAP.

Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate is another form of vitamin c. It is more stable form of ascorbic acid and some people will try this form if the Ascorbic acid is to strong for their skin.

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: hi, can i add other actives like vit E or A to this serum?

Wayne 09/21/10

You can add the content of one 400iu vitanim E softgel to the recipe. I have not used vitamin A in this recipe.

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: Hi there,
If I want this recipe to last longer than a week, what is the best preservative to add? I am fearful of mold and bugs having dinner in my serum. Nasty thought i know but what is worse- putting that on our skin or a preservative?

Thanks for the info!

Wayne 09/21/10

Well that is just it there realy is no way to keep it from oxidizing and making it keep more then a week. Make small batches once a week.

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: i have been using a good quality vitamin c serum (from my dermatologist) for about a month with no problems.

Today I put a heat releasing Oil of Olay scrub on my face and only the areas where I apply vitamin C are red, bumpy, and itchy. Do you have any idea why this happened and have you heard of this sort of thing before?

Wayne 09/19/10

I am not sure why his did happen. Have you used the scrub before the vitamin c serum in the past? The vitamin c serum can leave the skin sensitive. It may have been to much. Did the red, bumpy and itchy skin go away in a day or to or last longer.

If this has happened to you please leave a post for us to add.

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: What tests can one carry out to defferentiate L-ascobic acid from D-ascobic acid? AND if they happen to be mixed, how can one make a serum of right concentration?

Wayne 09/13/10

Here is Hanna's take on this I keep trying to say there is only ascorbic acid. The cost of just L-ascorbic acid is wat to high and they don't seperate it out.

Hanna from Skin Actives

Question: What about L and D ascorbic acid?

Answer: Some molecules exist in mirror forms (D and L). These molecules have at least one asymmetric carbon atom, i.e. a carbon atom that has each of its four bonds occupied by four different atoms or groups of atoms. Ascorbic acid is one such molecule. L-ascorbic acid means that the compound's stereochemistry is related to that of the levorotatory enantiomer of glyceraldehyde.

Please see - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(chemistry)

Regarding chirality of ascorbic acid and skin care, there are two questions

1) Does it matter whether a chemical is D or L? Yes, it does, because the special distribution of atoms is part of the structure of the chemical and will determine some of its properties.

2) Does it matter whether you are using the L- stereoisomer or a racemic mix of ascorbic acid on your skin? No. When no enzymes are involved either isomer will do. You need a minute amount of L-ascorbic acid, a cofactor for enzymes involved in the hydroxylation of pro-collagen amino acid residues. A racemic mix of ascorbic acid will have will have more than enough L-isomer to do the job and it is much less expensive. We have chosen our ascorbic acid to be very fresh (reduced) and in very fine crystals so that it can do a better job.

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: Hi there,

I was delighted to find this website to make my own Vitamin C serum. I am excited to try it out! I was wondering if anyone has a recipe for the comparitive serum that skin ceuticals makes? This has Vitamin C, E, & Ferulic acid.

Thanks for letting me know! Appreciate it!

Wayne 09/10/10

Some research indicates that ferulic acid may improve the stability of vitamin c when it is mixed with water, especially when you add vitamin E as well.

SkinCeuticals holds the patent for a topical formulation using all three ingredients.

I would still us the vegetable glycerin or you may give Canvas Base Cream by SkinActives.com a try. they are very good with thier imput on mixing new ingredients in as will.

I hope this helps

Wayne

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: Hi there,

My husband who has psoriasis purchased an off the shelf Vitamin C serum for $110 AUD at a naturopath which was already tinted yellow (oxidised?)on first application! Amazing how I would be saving almost $100 on the fresh homemade recipe!

Your knowledge has been greatly appreciated and welcomed - so much that I am changing my skin care to plant based products that dont cost the earth!

Would Rosehip oil or a mosturiser containg Aloe, Jojoba, Sesame ,Rosehip & Avocado be suitable to follow the serum with?

I went to a few local chemists who did not have the L ascorbic acid - so may I purchase this from your site as I live in Mebourne, Australia.

Thanks so much for your time!

Stella :)

Wayne 09/08/10

They all would make a good mosturiser but my pick out of them would be the Jojoba oil. I did a product review on Beautiful Skin by Renee. This is an oil blend that is made in Australia and you should be able to get it. Go to my New Product Review page for a link to her website.

Let us know how it works on your husbands psoriasis.

Thank you for the email Stella

Best Wishes

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Wayne 09/07/10

It will last for a week or more when made up as a serum. It will not go bad through out your day on your face.

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: Hi, so very interesting.

I've been using Vivier Kine-C I'm 62. I get lots of wonderful compliments from people regarding my skin. The above product is very expensive, so I looked you up to see comments on how to make my own Vitamin C serum.

Question, I use Natural Factors Vitamin C Calcium Ascorbate Powder 1,000 mg PH neutral Vitamin C Buffered with Calcium. I take this for daily health purposes. Can I use this particular Vitamin C powder to make my Serum???

Thanks Josie

Wayne 09/06/10

Hi Josie the trouble with vitamin c that one takes for a supplement contains fillers. Calcium is one of these fillers that you would not want in your homemade serum.

You want to start out with just ascorbic acid powder. If your have a hard time finding it localy you can get it here in the kit or from skinactives.com.

Let us know what way you go and if you get the same results as your store bought serum.

Sent in on to ad 09/10/10

: Hello,

Just wanted to give my review on that injection solution of Vitamin C..well, I did make it, but then I did a little research and found out that it has sodium hydroxide, in order for the solution pH to be closer to the one of the blood - so it's around 5.5 to 7, which is then no good...

:) Anyway, thank you for the reply :)

Thank you for the follow up on this it is a big help to us all.

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: There is a product I would like to try but its 17% by a professional company that promotes natural skincare. The price is reasonable and fair $20-30.

But I am worried about the percentage and I am in my late 20s, are there negatives reactions I should be concerned with.

Wayne 09/06/10

If it is to strong for your skin it will become over irritated.

I have seen products and people making up serums to 20% and it works for thier skin. I would do a patch test before using it on your face. Also look at the cream to see if it has turned yellow. this would indicate that ie vitamin c has oxidized.

Let us know if you do use it and how it worked on your skin. Thank you for the note.

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: I am excited to try this recipe! In the beginning of the article you suggest that everyone uses Vit C and E on their face. How do you incorporate the Vit E into the regimen? What is the best time to use both of these products, bedtime or morning?

Thank you,
Nikki

Wayne 09/06/10

You can add the content of one 400iu vitanim E softgel to the recipe.

I have always used the vitamin c serum in the evening.

Thank you for send in your question Nikki and let us know how this works on your skin.

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: Hello, this is a great idea to make your own serums and such... To buy ascorbic acid, the right one, because there is so many of them on the market, should it say "pure ascorbic acid powder pharmaceutical grade" or something else?

What is apropriate reaction of the skin to know that the serum is right concentration and working? And what concentration is the best to buy?

Thanks again.

Wayne 0902/10

You can get ascorbic acid from bulkactives.com. The recipe will make it a 10% serum. I would not go over this 10%. Some studies indicate this antioxidant serum will help in reduceing skin damage caused by free radicals.

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: Hello ,

I liked the idea of making my own face vitamin c serum , but since I don't live in USA (can't order any chemicals) the only ascorbic acid I could find was the 500mg of ascorbic acid in 5ml (0.16 oz.) of injection solution. Good thing is that it's already dissolved in purified water, so can I use that and just add glycerin?

Thanks in advance

Wayne 08/31/10

I have not heard of and (injection solution) before. If you were to try it use a pacth test before using it on your face. Also keep a close eye on it for turning yellow. Which would mean that oxidation has already started.

Let us know how it works on your skin type

If any one has any other input I will post it under your post.

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: Hi Wayane:

I got my MAP from SkinActives.com. In fact, I get everything I can from them. They have been super to me...very helpful. Their prices are great, they answer your questions and their site has a lot of good information. They ship really fast too.

I use their Canvas Base Cream. I was using the Curel but I did not like the smell once I added everything.

I have noticed a marked improvement in my skin in just two weeks...smoother, tighter and the broken capillaries are diminishing (horse chestnut). Husband has noticed (never notices ANYTHING) and has asked for his own jar. I get those from skinactives too.

The only thing I did not get from them was the Renovage because they did not carry it.

If anyone is interested in the recipe, I put about two Tbs. of the canvas base cream in a sterile cosmetic jar. I added 1/8 tsp MAP and 1/8 tsp of the horse chestnut extract and mixed thoroughly as both are powders. I then added 1 drop Renovage.

This amount will last about a week for your face and MUST be refrigerated. After a week, you need to make a new batch. I double my batch because I use it on the back of my hands and on my decollete'. Oh, and the Renovage I got from Lotioncrafter.com.

I hope this helps if anyone is interested. All I know is it sure is working for me and I've been looking for a long time.

Thanks, Pam

Wayne 08/31/10

Thank you so much for this great information Pam. I get a lot of emails from people looking for a recipe and where to get ingredients to make up a homemade MAP serum.

Thank you again for taking the time to send in this helpful information

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: Hi Wayne:
Now I'm really confused. I contacted the company where I purchased the MAP and asked if I needed to dissolve it in heated water and add it to the base cream.

They said NO, that adding the MAP powder directly to the base cream was fine.

Now I'm not sure what do to?!?!

Wayne 08/30/10

I would say go with what the company says to do. I have not work with the MAP before and was going by other articles that I have read about MAP.

Wher did you get your MAP. I'm sure other people would like to try it as well? Also what are you using as your base cream? Are you making your own? I know a lot of people do not like using glycerin because of it being sticky.

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: Hi Wayne:

I had to switch from the L ascorbic to the MAP due to sensitivity. I read in your posts that the MAP needs to be heated with water. Do I need to do that to add the MAP directly to a base?

Thanks

Wayne 08/29/10

Yes you would want to dissolve the MAP it water first and then add it to the base. You would not want to add it just to the base. You will want to dissolve it and then add it.

Thank you for the note and let us know how it works on your skin.

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: I have a daughter who has a type of vitiligo, never been able to get answers. I am thinking i could start a vitamin based diet for her, as well as skin diet. I believe it is from medication in the past. My problem is i have too many suggestions. Can you tell me what would be the best, safest topical? I need a Skin repigmentation (she has white spots) all over.

Thanks

Wayne 08/27/10

I am not a Dr. and not so sure this is the way I would go.

I would try an Endocrinology Dr. There is one here in Charlotte NC that everyone that I have talked to just loves.

Dr. George Loren Gaunt Jr. M.D., Ph.D.
General Practice
16600 Birkdale Cmns Pkwy Suite D
Huntersville , NC - 28078
704-896-1876

I would give his office a call to see if they may know of an Endocrinology Dr. in your area. Also ask what qustions to ask the Dr that you do find to make sure he or she is on the right track.

Let us know how it goes and I hope this helps.

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: Hi, i am sensitive to vitamin c serum would like to try Magnesium ascorbyl phospate at a 10% with just water.Will the same quantitites be used as ascorbic acid or different? and can you please explain why to use it at night as i thought using it in the morning before sunscreen will prevent pigmentation problems.

Thanks Louise

Wayne 08/27/10

The recipe is the same although the magesium ascorbyl phosphate powder often veries in density. Your are looking for 1 to 1.2g. This about one quater of a teaspoon. Also the mixture will need to be heated. Place the glass cup in a pot of hot water. The MAP and water. You want it to become transparent or noticeably less opaque. Then add your base. This will give you about a 5% strength.

Thank you for the question I hope it helps and let us know how it goes.

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: I had my compounding pharmacist make a 20% vitamin c cream for me and in two weeks the results are unbelievable. I am currently having him compound a preparation with DHEA and Estradiol in it. I obained it from a physician that specializes in anti-aging..

I can share the ingredients with you once I get the Rx returned to me.

Wayne 08/23/10

That would be Great. I have had people wanting to make a vitamin c serum up to 20% but have not had a recipe to pass along.

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: I am currently using the Philosphy product called Turbo booster C powder, i mix this with my Obagi-C Therapy cream in the AM and PM. My skin looks great, freckles are practically disappearing and my face is very clear and tighter looking.

Is ok to be mixing these products and using twice a day?

Wayne 08/22/10

To tell you the truth I'm not sure. I will but any more information from readers here at this post.

This is what questions I would ask though.

What does Philosphy say to mix the powder with? And How much vitamin c is there in Obagi-C Therapy cream?

Can I get the same results using it only once a day.

Thank you for sending this info in and stop back to see what other readers have to say as well.

08/23/10

In the last sent in information the use of a compounding pharmacist would be a good person to ask. I feel that the pharmacist knows more about what is in a product than the Dr. does.

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: Hi Wayne

This is a great website, thanks for the information. I can only buy plain ascorbic acid, not L-ascorbic acid. You mention above that plain ascorbic acid only has 1/2 the amount of L-ascorbic acid in it, so should I double the amount I use eg use a 1/2 tspn of plain ascorbic acid to 1 tspn of water. (I won't be using the glycerin just the ascorbic acid and water) Thanks for your time

Linda

Wayne 08/22/10

Hi Linda

I would start with the 1/4 teaspoon and work your way up to the 1/2 teaspoon if your skin is ok with it. The batch will only last a week anyway and you will be making a new one then. With out the base some peoples skin has been ok and others have had trouble.

Thank you for the note

Wayne

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: Hi Wayne,

Just want to clairify the Vitamin C Serum receipe. Above it says 1/4 teaspoon vitamin c, 1 teaspoon h2o, 1 teaspoon glycerin. But below it says 1/4 teaspoon, 2 teaspoon h2o, 2 teaspoon glycerin.

Which is it??
thank you, Jen

Wayne 08/19/10

It is 1/4 teaspoon of vitamin c and 1 teaspoon of water and 1 teaspoon of glycerin.

Some people have been ading to the recipe and some have been taking away from it. If you do let us know and how you like the new recipe.

Thank you for the note

Wayne

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: I would like to make the vitamin c serum, what type of store do I purchase the ascorbic acid & glycerin? Thanks for the info.

Cheryl

Wayne 08/18/10

I have the kit here or you can go online to www.bulkactives.com

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: Hi Wayne,

I mixed a serum of 1/2 tsp of L-ascorbic acid mixed w/ 1/4 cup distilled water.

This came from another site. No glycerin was rec. After three nights, I broke out in tiny red bumps all around my nose and mouth...really irritated.

I stopped using the serum and now, two days later, they are gone. Could the mixture have been too strong?

I have another "recipe" if you will which includes 5/6 drops of base (I'm thinking the Curel) 1/4 tsp horse chestnut extract (yes, I have broken caps.) 1/4 tsp. l-ascorbic and a drop of Renovage. What do you think?

Thanks, Pam

Wayne 08/13/10

The first recipe may be to strong out a base. Did you use warm water to dissolve the ascorbic acid?

For your next recipe I would try it with just the Curel base first and the ad your other ingerdients one at a time to see if your skin gets irritated. That way you can tell what is the irritating your skin.

It sounds like a good recipe to me. Keep us up to date on how it goes.

Thank you for sending in these tips and recipes for a vitamin c serum .

Wayne

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: age reversing benefits of a vitamin c serum !!! can you pleas let me know more about this ?? I made my serum the way you said bit I feel like my skin looks worse.

Is that possible ?? I am worried.

Thank you

Ada

Wayne 08/07/10

I would stop using the vitamin c serum as it is highly acidic and may irritate your skin.

You mat want to try using a Magnesium ascorbyl phosphate serum or Tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate cream ( not together though). These two ingredients may produce the similar benefits as the vitamin c serum but with less risk of irritating your skin.

A Vitamin C Serum is not for all skin types. If it is irritating your skin type stop using it...

Thank you for your email.

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: Hi there,
thank you for this excellent article. My one question pertains to the fesiblity of using the serum on my chest, to firm breast and arms, to reduce bingo wings?
Do you think this would be effective?
Regards,

Denise

Wayne 08/07/10

The vitamin c serum is used more for the antioxidant properties that can help reduce skin damage caused by free radicals.

Eventhough in studies it was found to boots skin collagen production I do not think it will firm your skin that much.

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: Excellent info. thank you.
I've used Anthony Logistics Vitamin C serum and I really could tell a difference. I would love to copy it. Could you suggest some amounts for the ingredients?

Carrageenan Extract
Chlorella Vulgaris Extract
Cucumber Extract
Glycerin
Lemongrass (Cymbopogon Schoenanthus) Extract
Lemongrass (Cymbopogon Schoenanthus) Oil
Licorice (Glycyrrhyza Glabra) Extract
Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid)

Thanks again,
Gerry

Wayne 07/28/10

Hi Gerry

If the list of ingredients are in order, you would use less and less of the ingredients as you go down the list.

I would not use more than a drop or two of the extracts for they are very concentrated.

Only make a small batch at a time and you may want to use only some of the ingredients to start out and then add to them. I'm just thinking of the cost.

Let me know how it goes. And make sure you write down how mush of each ingredient you use. One would think you can keep track, but beleave me you forget.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: I am so confused. In a few words, please explain how to make this Vitamin C serum or can I have it made at a compounding pharmacy? Additionally, I use Retin-A. How do I use them together since both are for night time?

Wayne 07/28/10

To make this recipe dissolve 1/4 teaspoon of ascorbic acid in 2 teaspoons of water. Then mix it in 2 teaspoons of glycerin.

I would use one or the other, but not both at the same time.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: seen most of ur coments, very nice, pls i want to ask of a more active serum that can brighten up the skin, something more active than vitamin c serum, waithing for respond,

thank u, gladys james.

Wayne 07/28/10

Hi James,

You may wnt to try a Vitamin C plus E plus Ferulic acid formula. Check out SkinCeuticals at www.skinceuticals.com

Let me know how it works on your skin.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: I don't know about vitamin c lightening skin, but I do know that my grandmother used a mixture of lemon juice and baby oil on my skin when I was little to fade out my freckles. I'm a red-head and tend to get a lot of them. Since lemon juice has a very high concentration of vitamin c, one could conclude the same result. But, I wouldn't count on it.

Wayne 07/22/10

Thank you for your note, it could also be from the citric acid in the lemon. Do you still use this mixture today and if not do you remember how it worked?

07/25/10

: Yes, I still use lemon juice today, but I don't bother mixing it with baby oil anymore. It works nicely to keep the freckles (and age spots) at bay. I just add a teaspoon of lemon juice to a cup of water and apply with a cotton ball or soft cloth. And of course, follow up with a layer of moisturizer.

Wayne thank you for getting back to us. It is great to get information for wat is working and how people are using natural skin care ingredients.

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: I spoke to a skin care professional who suggested that not only vitamin c, but also vitamin A should be used as well. Can these be mixed together or is it better to apply separatly?

JN, 07/20/10

Wayne 07/22/10

I would use the vitamin A in the moisturizer. Karen got a serious skin care kit that had in it A-Copper to use after a mask or washing of the face. (for oily skin)

Did they give you any ideas on which form of Vitamin A to use. I have used the vitamin E gel caps before, but I have not seen any vitamin A gel caps.

Thank you for your input

Wayne

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: i brought a cream named bio one vitamin c serum it contains pure ascorbic acid but it turned yellow in just three days how to prevent it from oxidizing ?

Wayne 07/20/10

Keeping it in the refrigerator and making sure to top is on tight. That is why it is better to make your own batch once a week. Store bought mixes tend to go bad very fast. There is on telling how long ago it was made.

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I was wondering why Cruel Comfort lotions is recommended. What does it have in it that makes it so highly recommended?

: Also, when you use the Curel lotion do you mix it with the water and ascorbic acid. Do you just use it in place of the glycerin? How do you mix the ascorbic acid and lotion together.

Wayne 07/20/10

The Cruel Comfort lotion does not have any ingredients that will make the ascorbic acid oxidize. Only the water will over time. (after a week or so)

The ascorbic acid needs to be dissolved in water first and then mixed with the lotion.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: I'm oily too and have started making my own vitamin c serum. But I use aloe vera gel as my base, as glycerin is a tad sticky for me in the summer. This won't decrease the serum's efficacy, will it?

Wayne 07/12/10

I have not made up a serum with the aloe vera but have wanting to. If you have a hard time in getting the ascorbic acid to dissolve you may want to try using Aloe Vera Juice, this you should be able to heat it up a little to get it to blend in.

Please let me knoe how you like this mixture it should be a good blend.

Thank you for the email.

Wayne

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: I'm very interested in making my own vitamin c serum but would like to add DMAE and alpa lipoic acid to it but don't know how to do it or how much to add. Would you have any info on this? I currently use a serum like this by Reviva and it is wonderful but too expensive for the whole body which is what I want.

Thanks soo much for the site!

Wayne 07/12/10

Hi Shelley,

I have not made any skin care products with DMAE before. So if there is someone here that has please leave a note.

When you do make up a batch if you would make notes and send them on if you like what you came up with. I would be glad to post what you find out.

Thank you for the email

Wayne.

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: Hello,

What do you think of this product... it comes in a powder form and water is added... REJUVENIQUE VITIMIN C SERUM ?

ty

Ellie

ps where can we purchase the vitamin c l ascorbic and variations?

Wayne 07/12/10

I have not had an email from anyone that has used the Rejuvenique Vitamin C Serum kit. So if someone has please leave us your thoughts. As for the ascorbic acid they have it at skinactives.com

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I am 48 and really see a difference.

Wayne 07/09/10

Thank you for the note on how you are using the vitamin c serum

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Hey Wayne,

I found a product with tetrahexyldecyl ascorbate in it -

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Would this work as well?

Thanks for you time...this is a popular topic!

regards Dylan

Wayne 07/07/10

I'm not sure on this one... If you have used this please leave a post so I can add it here.

Thank you for the find.

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: I'm excited to learn that I can make my own vitamin c serum! However, I need two kinds. My face is oily somewhat and can't take anything greasy or oily so I need a non-oily base for it. Most of the rest of my skin needs more moisture and so I want to make a body butter or lotion with a much richer base like cocoa butter or something else you might suggest. Would the glycerine be heavy or oily?

Thanks sooo much for your info and help!!

Wayne 07/06/10

When using a vitamin c serum you put the serum on first and then use your moisturizer. I would not try to put it all together in one batch. If you find that the glycerine is to heavy try using less of in when you mix it up. I had one comment that said she just used water in her mixture and the put on her moisturizer. You may want to try this as well.

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: hi
does vitamin c reduce freckles and dark spots?

Wayne

Hi,

I have not read any articles where vitamin c serum will reduce freckles or dark spots. It may though because it is good for skin that has seen a lot of sun over the years.

If you find out that after you ues a vitamin c serum it does let us know.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: Hi, I use Jojoba or Argan Oil as a moisturizer and am wondering if the l-ascorbic powder could be directly mixed into the oil, or would that render it ineffective?

Thanks,

Pat

Wayne 06/30/10

The ascorbic acid needs to be dissolved in water first. If I was going to mix it with an oil I would try either Sunflower oil or Grageseed oil. I know I have used these two oils in bath oils as they will mix in with the water.

It is the glycerin that will help water and oil combine in a mixture. You may want to try just a little glycerin in one of your batches.

Let us know how in goes..
Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: Is there a product to use in place of the glycerine? Something less oily.

Wayne 06/27/10

You can also use a lotion like Curel Continous Comfort

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: hi
could i replace glycerine with another ingredient and have the same benefit !

Wayne 06/27/10

You can also use a lotion like Curel Continous Comfort

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: i really would like to know if vitamin c serum can b made in a way to give instant glowing skin say for about 5mins after applying on the face.this is a major area of concern to African brides,being able to achieve that bright healthy glowing skin prior to their wedding day or the morning of the wedding before their makeup follows.thank you.

Wayne 06/27/10

Hi,

I would not use a vitamin c serum the morning of your wedding. On the day of your wedding I would not use anything new. Beleave me you will have a glow.... it is your wedding day.

Best Wishes
Wayne

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: I am using a well known vitaming c serum brand (obagi). I am worried that the product may have already oxidized. I have noticed (twice) a big yellow spot where i put my face on my bed when i sleep. I put the serum in the morning.
Can it oxidize while in my face?

Wayne 06/26/10

It is hard to say. You may want to try putting a small amount on a peace of cloth and leave it over night to see what happens.

Is there any color to the obagi to begin with? Is there any date on the packaging and how long have you been using it. If you are putting this on in the morning are you putting anything on at night or even washing your face before bed?

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: my skin loves vitamin c!! i have used celex c and arebons vitamin c line. i liked both but want to try something new. something with a higher percentage of vitamin c. can u recomend a brand? thank you so much.

Wayne 06/26/10

Hi,

You may want to make your own serum. Just use the recipe on the website. But do a patch test with any new product or amount of Vitamin c.

Thank you for the email

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: First of all, I saw you responding to a few questions like this first one, but the back and forth was a bit confusing, so I just want to make sure I've got the correct idea:

So true or false:

I can use a plain powder of 100% ascorbic acid for my serum, even if it's not marked l-ascorbic, because ascorbic acid is made up of both l and d-ascorbic, and the body will eliminate the d-ascorbic naturally making it an l-ascorbic serum. And all the l-ascorbic claiming powders on the market are no different than plain ascorbic?

Wayne 06/25/10

Yes you can use the 100% ascorbic acid.

My second concern is a different one that I haven't seen addressed anywhere:

I am black woman, and would like to use a homemade vitamin c serum for my skin for anti-aging. My only fear is skin lightening over long term use. I really don't want to do this. I think that natural looking brightening will look ok, but I have no interest in looking like I bleached my skin a year from now. I don't want to look insanely different from my baby pictures, you know. I want to look natural and healthy.

Homemade Vitamin C serum seems like an affordable long term solution for me to add to my skin care regime, but I want to look young and fresh, not like a different race. Please answer me if you have experience with vitamin C skin products over a long period of time, or know someone that has used them for a long period of time, and whether the skin has gotten more than a natural shade brighter. Also if you are, or know of the experiences of a black person who has been using this or any of these products over some time, please tell me what their results are like.

Wayne 06/25/10

I have not read any articles about the Vitamin C serum lightening the skin. I think it is a great question though. So I'm going to make a question box up. Hopefully we will get some people with black skin to wright in with some more input.

Thank you for your email

Wayne

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: Hi there, i would like to start using the vitamin c serum at 10percent. i am aware it has mild exfoliating properties and i have oily skin which i use a natural exfoliating cleanser for twice a day (Contains chick pea flour, oats flour, sandlewood ect). i also use a green clay mask once a week which exfoliates would the vitamin c be ok to use i don't want to over exfoliate. Could you plese advise.

Thanks, Sarah

Wayne 06/21010

You should be ok with using the vitamin c surem. It sounds like you are using a good natural cleanser and I think that green clay masks are good as well. Are you using a moisturizer at night?

Thank you for the email

Wayne

06/25/10 : Hi there, thanks for the reply i use jojoba oil at night as my moisturizer on the subject of green clay the one i buy comes in a aluminium tin and i have heard clay should not come in contact with anything metal as it looses it's properties. Any ideas if this is a myth or fact.

Thanks, Sarah

Wayne 06/25/10

I'm a big fan of jojoba oil and i think it is a good night oil.

As for the green clay and tin I will look into it. I have not heard it and I know I get my french green clay in a plastic bag and send it out in a plastic jar.

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: I use a toner with 2% salicylic acid on my face daily and a pad containing glycolic and other acids every other day. Would either of those impair the effectiveness of a vitamin C serum applied right after? I use the DeVita 15% serum.

Also, I know that glycolic acid shouldn't be used with Retin-A, but does a vitamin C serum used before Retin-A deactivate it, or the Retin-A?

Thanks so much for helping us on your forum.

Wayne 06/20/10

Well not being a Dr... I would look at it this way.
What time of the day are you using your products? At night or in the morning.
I would not put to many products on at any one time of day. You may want to split them up in your day and night use.

If one product is not doing it for you move on to your next one. (give it a mounth though) I would not keep putting one ontop of the other though. It would be hard to know what is realy working for you and you will end up spending a bunch of $$.

I would use one of the acids at a time and one moisturizer. Keep it simple but know when to move on to your next product and stop using the last.

But like I said I'm not a Dr. Any other input form readrs would be great.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: hi, great info your giving! i ordered one month ago philosophy vit c powder. and philosopy serum. have you heard any good things about these products?

Wayne 06/20/10

I have not worked with this product before. I you have send in your comments Thanks.

Also let us know how it is working for you !!!!

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: Hi, I came across your website and have brought the ingrediants needed to make the L Absorbic acid facial serum. I was wondering , can you add some ingrediants to this mixture if you wanted. I know as you said in your article that L Absorbic acid is the most important ingrediant but if I wanted to add an essential oil or grapeseed oil extract would it mess with the ingrediants?

Thank for your time and your wonderful informative website.

Wayne 06/14/10

Hi Christine,

After you put on the vitamin c serum it is good to put on a Moisturizer.

This is where I would use your grapseed oil and an essential oil. You would be able to make up a bigger batch because it will last longer than the vitamin c serum. ( only a week)

Any recipes you are making up I would be glad to post.

Thank you for your email

Wayne

06/15/10

Thanks so much for your reply. I am now experimenting with vitamen e oil grapeseed and coconut oil. Wish me and my face luck :) Christine

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: Hello there.
I found this product PERFECT C VITAMIN C that I bought from Walgreens, it contained 5 vials of vitamin C powder and a serum to mix it with. I am having problems with hormonal acne and tried almost every product that you can think of but nothing works. I am now on my own mission to find a solution on how to get clear skin.

Pls. let me know if this product I mentioned is as good as the Vitamin C serum recipe that you posted.
Thank you.

Ann

Wayne 06/10/10

Hi Ann,

The one ingredient in this recipe is the glycerine that can clog pores. So the kit you got at Walgreens my be better , not knowing what is in the serum.

You may want to try a french green clay mask made with aloe vera. This is what my son Ben uses on his back when it gives him problems. He will use it every nigh for a week and then he stops for a while in till it flars up again.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: "local Chemist store?"

What city has that?

Wayne 06/09/10

Dr. Jo is down in Australia and they they call pharmacy " local chemist store"

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: Can I mix vit c powder in any lotions/serums right before use? Or does it need to be a specail kind of product or pH? Thanks,
Alyssa

Wayne 06/08/10

Hi Alyssa,

The two things you have to look out for one you are right on the ph the other is and metals in the ingredients. The only cream that I know of at this time is Curel Continous Comfort Lotion.

You would also want to dissolve the powder first and then mix it in. Just remmber to do a patch test first.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: Hi I have a question for you.... I used te recipe you have but the glycerin is to tacky o my face i don't like the way it feels... Plus I already have a problem with oil... Can I substitute ore water in the place of the glycerin orjust leave the glycerin out and use the 1/4 tsp of ascorbic acid and the 1 tsp of water???? Also the only ascorbic acid i could find says Vivamn C (as ascorbic acid) and they are the powder crystals....

THANK YOU
Michelle;-)

Wayne 06/07/10

I had a person wright in that they left out the glycerin and just used the ascorbic acid and water. Just make sure yuo do a patch test befor using it on your face. Put the powder in warm water to dissolve the powder.

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: Hi there,

I am so glad l found your website. I would like to make my own vitamin C serum however l would like to add vitamin B as l have rosacea and l read this helps, as well as vitamin E succinate which is water soluble. First of all, can l mix all of these vitamins in a potion? Is it possible to substitute the gliceryn with aloe vera gel or at least include aloe and hyaluronic acid in my formula.

Please help me make a stable potion and let me know for how long can l keep using it without worrying about oxidation and bacteria groth.
Thank you!

Hi Genta,

I see no problem in mixing the Vitamins into the mixture. But do a patch test to make sure it is ok with your skin.

For using the aloe vera gel you would make sure the ascorbic acid is fully dissolved in water before mixing it with something else. I knoe I have been want to mix it with Aloe my self but have not gottin around to it. Just make sure it is Aloe Vera.

When I was getting the family sunscreen I saw all of these after sun aloe lotions but aleo was way down on the ingredients list. Look for an aloe 90% or more.
Just a tip.

Now as far as the hyaluronic acid I'm not sure and at this time I would leave it out.

Here is a link to Wikipedia for more information,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyaluronic_acid

It is used in many skin care products but I'm just not sure about mixing it with ascorbic acid. If you find out any information on it please pass it along.

With this mixture I would not keep it for more than a week.

I hope this helps and thank you for the email

Wayne

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: Angie

: "I recommend everyone put Vitamin C and E onto their face daily because they protect against UV induced cell damage." WHAT DO YOU USE AS FAR AS VITAMIN E AND HOW AND WHEN SHOULD IT BE APPLIED?

ALSO- THE C SERUM- I ASSUME IT IS TO BE USED AS IS? OR DO YOU MIX IT IN A LOTION?

Wayne

Hi Angie,

Did you see my webpage on Vitamin C Serums?

http://www.natural-skin-care-info.com/vitamin-c-serum.html

You would want to make sure the ascorbic acid is fully dissolved before mixing it with something else. Which can be Vegetable Glycerine or Curel Continous Comfort Lotion.

I recommend putting it on night.

Hope this helps and thank you for the email
Wayne

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: could you wet your skin with fresh lemon juice, let it dry and would that work?

Wayne

There is more citric acid in lemons juice than ascorbic acid , you may desire to dilute the lemon juice with a bit of water rather than use it full strength.. It will act more of a skin lightner.

It is not advisable that you apply lemon juice to your skin before sun exposure as it makes the skin more sensitive to the sun.

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: Hi Wayne,

I tried your serum & it seems too light ... cannot feel any difference. I am using 100% ascorbic acid, vegetable glycerin & tap water.

Any thoughts?
betty

Wayne

Hi Betty

People who do not respond to vitamin C may respond to ( MAP ) which is Magnesium Ascorbyl Phosphate. This is a nonirritating and stable form derivative of vitamin C.

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: Hi Wayne,

My skin is fragile due to allergies and frequent use of cortisone cream. I have now stopped using the cream, but I break out from slight irritation like sweat or pressure. Would the Vitamin C serium help strengthen my skin? Is there an online store where I can buy both ingredients?

Many thanks!I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Wendy

Wayne

Hi Wendy

To start I am not a Dr. If your skin is fragile I would start with using Aloe Vera Gel. I'm a big fan of aloe and even use it in making my face masks. My son has acine on his back and I mix it with french green clay. His skin gets real red and sore. This helps him out.

When I was getting the family sunscreen I saw all of these after sun aleo lotions but aloe was way down on the ingredients list. Look for an aloe 90% or more. Just a tip.

Have you tryed using any eye creams on your face as well? I'm thinking an eye cream with vitamin E.

Now for the vitamin c serum it can be hard on ones skin. So you would want to first do a patch test. And make up a batch of serum with only 1/2 of the ascorbic acid to start.

You can get ascorbic acid at bulkactives.com/ascorbicacid.htm and you can get Vegetable Glycerine at Mountain Rose Herbs.

I do make kits up but at this time I'm out.

Let me know how it goes and I hope this helps

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: confused. original recipe says "not vitamin C tablets". I have vit. C tablets that also have rose hips in them. Can I grind them up and then use to make my serum?

Wayne

The tablets may not have enough ascorbic acid in them to have the benefit for a vitamin c serum for your skin. Also to make the tablet there are other ingredients in them you do not want in the mixture. Although rose hips are good for skin but in the wrong form. These tablets were made for a dietary supplement not for skin care.

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: Hi, i have your article i made my own vitamin C serum its awesome!!! i feel that if i add in it grape seed extract and MSM , how would it be ?? how londg should i use it in order to see the results of my mixture?

kindly guide

thanks

cheme

Wayne

Hi Cheme

I like grape seed oil but have not used the extract or MSM before. Is the grape seed extract like an oil? I know the oil will mix well with water and us it for my bath oils.

To see any results of your mixture I would give it a good 2 weeks. Depending on how ofton you use it.

Where do you get your MSM? and do you have any recipes you would like to share?

Thank you for your note

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: I have been making this and love the way my skin feels. Haven't noticed a change in appearance as of yet. I have noticed that at the end of the day my pores are black. I can wash it off but it only does this when using the serum.

Any ideas?

Wayne

Try putting in less Glycerin. It is the glycerin in the recipe that can clog pores.

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Hi Wayne

As you suggested, I heated the distilled water in the microwave only just enough to warm it up. When I put the ascorbic acid in, it disolved very easily!! I then added the vegetable glycerin. It is now perfect, and not grainy at all.

I do know from doing research that a lot of people have been having the same problem. Thank you so much!!

Regards

Shona

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: No matter how hard I try, the ascorbic acid never dissolves. Stir the mixture until the Vitamin C dissolves. I can stir for 30 minutes, it never dissolves. I can still see the distilled water separated from the powder.

Why?

Wayne

I warm the water in the micro first...

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: I have recently starting making my own vitamin c serum. I have been using the correct amounts of ascorbic acid, distilled water & glycerin. The colour turns milky white. Should it be this colour or should it be clear? Thank you! I can't find the answer to this anywhere.

Wayne

Hi Shona,

When I mix up the serum it is clear. Now for glycerin I'm using Vegetable glycerine that comes from Mountain Rose Herbs. Mixing the Ascorbic Acid with water first. Try mixing your ascorbic acid and water and give it a day or so to see it it turns milky white. In another jar mix your glycerin and water and give it a day or so. What we are trying to do is see what two are turning milky.

The color that you have to look out for is yellow, that means the ascorbic acid has oxidized.

I'm thinking it is the glycerin that you are using, you can also use KY-jelly or for a cream use Curel Continous Comfort Lotion.

Let me know what you find.

Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: I tried to buy the Vitamin C at the chemist and could not find it to make this up. Where do I buy the Vitamin C portion and is it a liquid? Everywhere I checked it doesn't seem there is liquid available.

Wayne

It is a powder and you can buy it at
bulkactives.com/ascorbicacid.htm

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Sarah H

: Hi there, i have a quick question regarding the vitamin c serum i am interested in using. i am 21 years old with asian skin and would like to use this for my pigmentation. would it be suitable for young skin i am slightly concerned about the collagen production. could you please get back to me.

Thanks

Wayne

Hi Sarah,
Your question would be better for Dr Jo here is website address,
http://www.skinrevision.net.au/
Here is another web page on asin skin here at Natural Skin Care Info,
http://www.natural-skin-care-info.com/skin-tone-asian-skin.html
I would like to have more infor mation on Asian skin and would appreciate any info mation that Dr Jo gives you along with any other information you would like to share.
Thank you for the email

Wayne

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: this is a very interesting and informative article. What I don't understand is if Vitamin C is very unstable and oxidise before you even put it on your face, what would make this recipe different? What I'm trying to say is that if ascorbic acid is very unstable and oxidises easily, then, even if you make your own vitamin c serum, it will oxidise easily. Am I wrong? Thanks

Wayne

When you make up a serum fresh it will last up to a week. Products that are in the store I would be safe to say are more than a week old.

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: Wayne, sorry to jump in this interesting discussion.

"All ascorbic acid that you can get has both the L and D in it. It is that, it is the L that works on ones skin and as a supplement for food."

When you say as a supplement for food, do you mean that we have to specifically search for ascorbic acid L and not D? Because I can't find it. They only specify ascorbic acid, without differentiating type D and L. Thanks

Wayne

Never be sorry for jumping in.. That is how we all learn...me as well.

All you have to look for is ascorbic acid. When I did find a place that said they did have the L-ascorbic acid I sent and email to my supplier and this is the email I got back.

"Although their price is right up there to make it seem like L-Ascorbic Acid, their Certificate of Analysis seems almost identical to ours making me think that it is still just plain ascorbic acid supplied by the same factory that makes ours (and most of the world's). Attached is our COA so you can judge for yourself."

So until we find a source that can prove it is just the "L" I will use the plain ascorbic acid. The "D" has no adverse effect on the skin and the cost is way cheaper.

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